Starting out

How long a first order really takes.

A supplier quotes production time. A first order also contains specification, sampling, approval, registration in your own market, documents, a possible holiday period, loading, a voyage and clearance. Several of those cannot start until the previous one finished, which is why first orders take far longer than the quoted lead time.

Eleven stages.

Written in the order they actually happen. The point of the list is not the durations, which nobody can publish honestly, but which of them a buyer forgets to allow for at all.

  1. 01

    Write the specification

    Before approaching anybody. Skipping it does not save time, it moves the time to later where it costs more.

  2. 02

    Find and check candidates

    Register checks, questions, shortlisting. Runs in parallel with nothing and it is the stage buyers compress hardest.

  3. 03

    Samples

    Collection, shipping, evaluation and possibly a second round. Courier time each way, and this is where weeks go quietly.

  4. 04

    Quote and negotiate

    On specification first, price second. A revised specification means a revised quote, so this loops.

  5. 05

    Contract and deposit

    Proforma, terms, the account check, the transfer clearing. Days rather than weeks and it does have to finish before the next stage starts.

  6. 06

    First article

    One unit under production conditions, shipped, approved in writing. Cannot overlap with the run and buyers skip it to save exactly this time.

  7. 07

    Production

    The only stage a supplier's lead time describes.

  8. 08

    Your own market registration

    Runs in parallel from the start, and in several markets it takes longer than everything above it combined. Started late, it means a paid-for container in a bonded warehouse.

  9. 09

    Documents

    Some issued against the shipment and therefore only at the end, some needing to exist before production. Establishing which is which is early work.

  10. 10

    Inspection and loading

    Inspection before sealing, consolidation if several suppliers, and the container waiting for the slowest one.

  11. 11

    Voyage and clearance

    Plus any transhipment, plus the domestic leg at the Indonesian end that nobody prices.

What runs in parallel and what cannot.

Registration in your own market can and should start on day one. It depends on the product rather than on the shipment, and it is the single stage most likely to become the critical path if it starts late.

Document mapping can start immediately too. Knowing which certificates have to exist before production is the difference between a smooth shipment and a scramble at loading.

What cannot overlap: sampling before approval, approval before the run, the run before inspection, inspection before loading. That chain is sequential by nature and compressing any link moves the risk rather than the time.

Where the calendar actually breaks.

The Indonesian holiday period, which moves about eleven days earlier each year and closes production for weeks rather than days. A buyer who plans against last year's calendar walks into it.

The second sample round, which is normal and which nobody plans for. Assuming the first sample is right is optimistic on a first order with a new producer.

And the document that had to exist before production. Discovering it at loading is not a delay of days, because the certificate cannot be issued retrospectively for goods already made.

Questions buyers ask.

Can I just ask the supplier how long it takes?

They will tell you the production time honestly, and that is one of eleven stages. It is not evasion, it is that the other ten are not theirs. Build the calendar backwards from when you need the goods and add the stages nobody quoted.

How much buffer should I add?

Enough that an Indonesian holiday period and one repeated sample round both fit inside it without moving your date. On a first order that is more than feels reasonable, and buyers who added it are the ones who did not spend the last month on the phone.

What is the fastest a first order can realistically go?

Faster if the product is something the producer already makes, the packaging is theirs, no registration is required in your market and nothing needs approving. Every one of those conditions you cannot meet adds a stage, and custom anything adds several.

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